Comments for “OR 99W S.Corvallis ”
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This planning process needs to struggle again with designing the best access to the Town Center, both from 3rd St and from internal streets, to internalize local trips as much as possible--avoiding 3rd St for vehicles, bikes & peds as much as possible. This means connectivity with internal streets, such as Bell and Powell, which may not be desired by current residents, so designing to reduce impacts.
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Riverfront Park Multi-use Path
Response to "Have a big trail map sign so that tourists and people new to biking/walking know WHERE they can safely travel, from downtown to Southtown. Some locals don't even know about the riverfront sidewalks for biking.” Comment, Jan. 7, 2021.
Please Note: The Riverfront Park multi-use path can’t be expected to accommodate a large number of regular cross-town commuter-type bicyclists, as it was never intended to be a commuter route. A recreational bike trip would be fine. As a member of the Riverfront planning process, I can add that “sharing the road” on 1st St. was what the Riverfront Task Force and Commission envisioned for most commuter-type bicyclists in that area.
I do agree, however, that some Downtown streets do not always seem like a safe place to bike to me, and I do very much like the citizen’s ideas of signs!
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I love the SouthTown area just the way it is. Please don't change anything! It is a great area to live in.
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This intersection, as well as all intersections and crossings, need lighting on the East side. Increasing the illumination on the West side is not adequate. This is very important at intersections for individuals crossing the side street, who are not visible in the dark to vehicles turning left onto that side street.
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This crossing and all crossings, as well as all intersections, need lighting on the East side. Increasing the illumination on the West side is not adequate. This is very important at intersections for individuals crossing the side street, who are not visible in the dark to vehicles turning left onto that side street. I know it involves running electricity from the West side, but it was a cheap way to do it in 1993 and now needs to be corrected.
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Although there is adequate time to stop at the crossing if going 25mph and observant, most vehicles still tend to speed up leaving Downtown and coming off the curve. The crossing needs a red-yellow-green stop light to give equal priority to peds, and ensure that drivers stop for the full time it takes to cross. If flashing yellow remains, all 3 posts must be flashing from both sides--currently, only 2 posts are flashing in direction of travel, so not as visible to drivers, and harder for person crossing to see it is flashing.
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Although there is adequate time to stop at the crossing if going 25mph and observant, most vehicles still tend to speed up leaving Downtown and coming off the curve. The crossing needs a red-yellow-green stop light to give equal priority to peds, and ensure that drivers stop for the full time it takes to cross. If flashing yellow remains, all 3 posts must be flashing from both sides--currently, only 2 posts are flashing in direction of travel, so not as visible to drivers, and harder for person crossing to see it is flashing.
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The posted speed of the offramp from the 20/34 by-pass to 4th St southbound is 35mph until you reach the curve. This contributes to merging traffic going faster than 25, just before the Coop crossing. The speed needs to decrease to 25 well before the curve, and warning lights (or the speed reader) installed to reduce speeding upon merging. (An ODOT rep said that locals over time ignore these signs, but I would bet most of the traffic on this offramp is not made up of locals.)
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This comment should have been put under "Crossings." I apologize but it is too important to not put it in the best "category." & I don't know how comments will be sorted.
COOP Ped/bike Crossing.
The pedestrian/bicycle crossing by the First Alternative COOP and Papa’s Pizza is somewhat unique & so an extremely dangerous location. The crossing infrastructure must be entirely redesigned to protect pedestrians and bicyclists.There are several reasons other than driver irresponsibility that make this site unsafe. Among others,
1. drivers inadvertently increase speed as they drive under the bypass and around the bends.
2. Even though the law dictates that a driver may not cross the intersection until the pedestrian has entirely left the crossing, drivers do not comply.Drivers MUST NOT PARTICIPATE in the decision of when and if to go AT THIS LOCATION; it cannot depend on a driver’s judgement.
A safer solution for this location is to use a red-green-yellow type of light that requires drivers to stop, and only allows drivers to go when the signal is again green.
This more traditional type of lighting is also the way in which the pedestrian has closer to an “equal standing” at this intersection. To develop this thought:
1. drivers sometimes don’t see the second pedestrian who is using the crossing & assume that the one pedestrian who they see is “it.”
2. larger vehicles can block the view of a driver seeing additional pedestrian(s)
3. need to establish the habit for drivers that this will be a mandatory stop.Crossing Light options: I am not an expert on all of the newer crossing lights yet, but for example, the HAWK Beacon Signal problems (shown at this Tempe, AZ website ( www.youtube.com/watch?v=x92c5SHc8yM ) are:
1. It allows drivers to cross when the two red lights “toggle” if there are no pedestrians in the crossing. A signal should also NOT signal to drivers that the crossing time is ending.
2. I think that I would prefer a “green light” step; though there might be a con that I can think of, it further establishes it as an intersection.
3. Additional flashing lights of some sort (like at crossings now) could be argued to be of value to further bring awareness to a pedestrian.Liked 1 time -
Bypass Exit Ramp:
The speed limit signs on the bypass exit ramp (going south) must be changed so they are consistent, and both read 25 mph. (At least more recently, one read 30 mph.) This change can be made immediately.Liked 0 times -
Pedestrian Crossing at the COOP.
Please immediately put additional flashing lights on the OPPOSITE sides of the posts, because vehicles can block the traffic-facing lights, etc
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I'm not sure where to click. I travel this road once/week. It would be helpful if there weren't as many speeds. It is really confusing. I think it should be 25 from when you cross the bridge until you get to Lincoln School then the 20 mile school zone or still be 25 when school is out. Then either 30 or 35 until you are out of town. NOw there are so many speeds and if you don't notice a sign, you might be speeding.
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COOP ped/bike crossing.
The pedestrian/bicycle crossing by the First Alternative COOP and Papa’s Pizza is somewhat unique & so an extremely dangerous location. The crossing infrastructure must be entirely redesigned to protect pedestrians and bicyclists.There are several reasons other than driver irresponsibility that make this site unsafe. Among others,
1. drivers inadvertently increase speed as they drive under the bypass and around the bends.
2. Even though the law dictates that a driver may not cross the intersection until the pedestrian has entirely left the crossing, drivers do not comply.Drivers MUST NOT PARTICIPATE in the decision of when an if to go AT THIS LOCATION; it cannot depend on a driver’s judgement.
A safer solution for this location is to use a red-green-yellow type of light that requires drivers to stop, and only allows drivers to go when the signal is again green.
This more traditional type of lighting is also the way in which the pedestrian has closer to an “equal standing” at this intersection. To develop this thought:
1. drivers sometimes don’t see the second pedestrian who is using the crossing & assume that the one pedestrian who they see is “it.”
2. larger vehicles can block the view of a driver seeing additional pedestrian(s)
3. need to establish the habit for drivers that this will be a mandatory stop.Crossing Light options: I am not an expert on all of the newer crossing lights yet, but for example, the HAWK Beacon Signal problems (shown at this Tempe AZ website (www.youtube.com/watch?v=x92c5SHc8yM ) are:
1. It allows drivers to cross when the two red lights “toggle” if there are no pedestrians in the crossing. A signal should also NOT signal to drivers that the crossing time is ending.
2. I think that I would prefer a “green light” step; though there might be a con that I can think of, it further establishes it as an intersection.
3. Additional flashing lights of some sort (like at crossings now) could be argued to be of value to further bring awareness to a pedestrian.Think differently at this crossing! I knew Rhiana Daniels ,who was an amazing kid. And, Eric Austin should not have died, either.
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For motorists sitting at the intersection on Crystal Lake the large control box obscures pedestrians and cyclists on the sidewalk approaching the intersection from the north.
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Regarding the suggestion of a new highway along the railroad ROW to take the traffic pressures off 3rd street-- This would just create an additional vehicle oriented highway spreading the negative impacts to other areas. My neighborhood already suffers from the barriers of the state couplet, the 20-34 bypass, Western Blvd, and the rail yard. A better solution would be to "repair" the negative effects of traffic on 3rd with a more "urban neighborhood" approach to streetscape and design. Traffic efficiency might be tempered to create city vitality. More Champs-Elysees and less Highway 99W.
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My husband and I would like to recommend buttons on the pavement/road to bring attention to slow down as you leave town (before the Coop crosswalk). And driving north before SE Rivergreen Ave.
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High vehicle speeds in excess of posted limits, combined with the multiple traffic lanes make pedestrian crossing at 3rd St. and B Ave. perilous.
The crossing at B and 4th Street is slightly better as the light at Western means that traffic has been accelerating for only a block.Liked 2 times -
The island in the median that was added years ago is a nuisance. I farm on Kiger Island and when driving a loaded truck and turning onto SE Kiger island drive, I have to almost stop in the lane of traffic to make the turn, slowing all traffic around and behind me. The island in the median should be removed.
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Regarding the entire corridor: 1) Bike lanes are too narrow and close to traffic. 2) Sidewalks are too narrow and close to traffic (you get soaked from cars driving through puddles). 3) Two key areas, around the Coop and around Lincoln School, have multiple issues with speed, access, and many access points. 4) The west side needs an alternative bike-ped path. Make rails to trails happen! 5) The design of the road encourages speed.
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Excessive speeds of vehicles exiting the bypass make it dangerous for vehicles traveling at posted speeds to merge left for turns onto B Ave.
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People ride bikes on the sidewalk here because traffic patterns are so complex. The crosswalk helps but also creates more congestion because traffic is backed up. Line of site from the Coop's south entrance requires pulling out onto the sidewalk which in turn creates conflict with people on bicycles.
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Tunison and Viewmont aren't aligned which makes this area very unsafe, especially during times of high traffic. Turning north from Tunison is very difficult and requires the driver to make the turn very quickly at a busy location
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I had no idea the railroad corridor is available. Rather than the expensive idea of moving the highway to it, make this a multi-use trail so walkers and bikers can get to downtown/campus FAR more safely than along 3rd/99. Continue the path as far south as feasible! More bike paths please
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The entire span from SB from Western to Chapman or Philomath Blvd on-ramp is a racetrack! I used to work where the Lumina Hospice building is now and all day, every day, cars were always speeding...trucks too!. They shook the building!
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Be the first state highway to adopt a 20 mph speed limit through a city. The scientific and empirical evidence for the safe and quiet wonders of "twenty is plenty," a movement widely adopted in Britain, would be replicated--and make you famous nationwide--in Southtown.
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