Comments for “Yavapai County Regionally Significant Roads Study - Cornville Road”
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A two lane round a bout would take care of excessive speed, so there is no need to reduce speed limits. An additional round a bout at Tissaw would also keep the intersection speeds low. The highway speed limit is fine and slowing it past the round a bouts would stack up traffic and cause safety issues. The purpose of round a bouts is to slow intersection traffic while keeping the highways flowing without backups. (see Hwy 260 speed limits) They work fine. Reading prior comments I see people wanting speed limits lowered. That would defeat the purpose of round a bouts and render them unnecessary. It would help if Cornville road was expanded to 4 lanes from 89a to 1/2 mile east of Tissaw. That would allow for the use of right turn arrows at 89a and Cornville Rd. Thanks.
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"Cornville Vision 2032" (June 2021) highlights key Cornville Road issues: too much traffic, dangerous for pedestrians & bikes, no transit service. It recommends goals: Expand "slow zone" from Koch Ranch to Top of Curves, extend 25 MPH speed zone, add cameras & rumble strips, medians, turn lanes where feasible; make 3-way stops (Page Springs & Loy intersections); increase enforcement; add traffic circles (Tissaw & Aspaas). Add pedestrian lane to Oak Creek Bridge and multi-modal connector trail from bridge through expanded Windmill Park. Establish a transit station at park.
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The proposal to increase to two lanes leading into the traffic circle at Tissue Road is going to result in higher speeds. We need to think about slowing down the speeds along this corridor. We need to reorient to a more pedestrian friendly character for this section of Cornville road.
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I have read all the comments and "liked" many of them. Speaking of Cornville Road in general, there are many issues that must be decided to create a safer roadway for drivers, bicyclists, and walkers. Speed is a critical issue. I drive Cornville Road at the speed limit and note how I am constantly tailgated and passed in unsafe manners. Making turns onto and off of Cornville Road is hazardous at best. Hikers and bikers that wish to cross the road are putting their life in the hands of drivers speeding through the area. While roundabouts do slow traffic at that point, they do nothing for slowing traffic on the rest of the road. There are several excellent suggestions made on here to slow traffic and make Cornville Road safer. However, speed is the most dangerous issue that needs dealing with. To slow traffic there must be reduced speed limits and strict enforcement. Without enforcement, speed limits are worthless. Also, restrictions on weight would limit the size and frequency of large trucks using the road. In general, Cornville Road is a friendly country road, and we must do what we can to keep it that way.
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As a cyclist, I also am very hesitant to ride Cornville Rd in its current configuration. Minimal to nonexistent shoulders, excessive speeds and very heavy traffic loads make it a very dangerous stretch of road.
The plan for roundabouts only adds to the danger for bikes and peds. Without dedicated bike paths and walkways this project is a fail.
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I live in the Dorado section of Verde Santa Fe and am another avid cyclist. I avoid riding on Cornville Rd like the plague. Fast speeds and sometimes non-existent shoulders make several dangerous stretches for a bike. The area has grown in the time I moved here. With all the development that is planned for the north side of Cornville Rd, it will get dramatically worse over the next few years. There is way too much traffic on this road. The traffic circles on 260 (count them - yep 7 of them) have moved traffic onto Cornville Rd. This road was not intended to handle this level of traffic. If I'm going to !-17 I won't take 260 because of the circles. A traffic circle at Tissaw, Verde Santa Fe Pkwy and Amante will be needed to get people into the massive development on the north side of Cornville Rd. The speed limits are way to high. How about the traffic circles, bike lanes and slowing down traffic to 25 mph from downtown Cornville to 89A? This will reduce truck traffic as it would push it to 260 (where it belongs). Turning from Tissaw (and Verde Santa Fe and Amante) will be easier. The noise levels would also drop dramatically. Embrace the road for what it is meant to be - access for all the people that live here, not a truck route to avoid 260.
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I am a dedicated cyclist that rides this section of Cornville Rd. and I am not the only one. I would like to second the opinion that this road needs bike lanes in both directions without rumble strips interfering with the use of these bike lanes or what ever shoulder exists outside of the painted edge lines. As noted this road is carrying an increased load of traffic and it seemed to become particularly obvious when Highway 260 was under construction. I would like to see the traffic speed reduced along the sections posted at 50 mph and maybe install bicycle safe traffic circles along the route to slow the traffic as is the case on Highway 260 (except they are not bicycle safe). Maybe this would divert automobiles to Highway 260 as it is far less used by cyclists.
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There should be a dedicated bicycle lane from 89A to at least Page Springs rd. Also any roundabout should have a dedicated bike lane unlike all of them on 260. Hwy 260 is good to ride with exception of the roundabouts which are extremely dangerous.
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Beaverhead Flats has become a serious safety issue with morning traffic not stopping at Cornville Road and pulling out in front of on coming traffic
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Having lived off of North Aspass for over 20 years I have seen it come from a minute stop to get on Cornville Road to a 10 minute wait between 7:30 am and 9:00 am on weekdays. We need a roundabout for safe access.
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Heavy truck traffic has increased dramatically which puts strain on OC bridge to say nothing of the road itself. Cement trucks etc are avoiding the roundabouts on Hwy 260 which was built to handle the weight! They then continue on Mingus and sometimes right through Old Town Cottonwood. Why isn't there a weight limit on Cornville Rd and the OC Bridge?
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I have lived in beautiful downtown Cornville for 30+ years and drive Cornville Road on a daily basis. Every day this drive is now an exercise in extreme caution especially during peak times in traffic for people on their way to and from work. There is quite a bit of commentary regarding the issues for Verde Santa Fe residents safely accessing Cornville Road but this entire corridor from the Hwy 89A traffic light to the I17 interchange is becoming more dangerous everyday with the increased amount of commercial traffic and aggressive drivers traveling at excess speed on this narrow 2-lane COUNTY road. There is currently little to no enforcement of posted speed limits. The only time the 25MPH speed is observed from the bridge to the Post Office is when traffic is backed up due to the sheer volume of cars. The 50 MPH speed limit posted in other areas is laughably just a “suggestion”. Installing a few roundabouts (or more) is not going be the only solution for Cornville Road…just as it was not the right solution for Hwy 260.
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I want to see a safe bicycle lane added to this road improvement. I should be a must for this road.
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I am a 20 year resident of N. Aspaas Rd and a retired CHP officer specializing in traffic enforcement and commercial enforcement. Several times a week I use Cornville Rd to travel to VOC to my mothers home via Beaverhead Flat. My shopping is done in Cottonwood but sporadic. What I have noticed over the years is that the majority of excess and constant traffic is not local traffic, but commuter traffic from other areas to bypass the rat race big city traffic in other poorly designed major roadways. (SR179, SR260, and Sr89A) Especially with the commercial traffic, including semis, construction vehicles and recently, heavily loaded trash trucks coming from the Cottonwood area and using Cornville Road to I17 to avoid the SR260 debacle. Cornville Road is a 2 lane COUNTY Road with private property right up to the roadway easements, private driveways and a still unaddressed drainage and flooding problem at the Oak Creek bridge and below. I don't believe roundabouts are the answer as they will cause backups both directions as they have to be well marked and LARGE to accommodate the commercial and rv traffic. The topography of Cornville Rd, windy, uphill and downhill grades, with poor visibility of side roads and business entrances is not condusive to extra lanes, roundabouts,and " state highway" improvements. MY county road is rutted, potholed, unmowed, unmaintained and has been for many years. These ideas to facilitate "commuter" traffic from other areas is untenable. Of course, constant and complete traffic enforcement is ideal, weight and vehicle size restrictions are plausible, and "residents first" improvements should be first and foremost. N. Aspaas is the ONLY ingress/egress for all the residents in this area and at times almost impossible to turn onto Cornville Road because of the steady stream of high speed traffic from both directions. Speaking from a law Enforcement traffic/commercial enforcement perspective and experience, the more lanes you build , the bigger and "safer" hindrances you try to implement, the more vehicles and traffic , with all its inherent problems, will come a running, and at warp speed.
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The potential for growing Windmill Park along the roadway east of the creek might influence curb cuts, etc. We need to also be thinking ahead to when we have a viable bus system and locate some bus stop turnouts along all of the roadway.
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Is this area to become 'strip commercial'? It is starting. How can we improve upon the use and development pattern to become more of a rural feeling area? Road design must respond to future land use patterns...so, What do we want for the old "Casey's Corner" area. It used to feel like a c'country corner'. Perhaps this 'country corner' feel might move to the east since the Page Springs intersection will likely get a roundabout (needed) and not have that rural feel anymore.
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Any road improvement in this "downtown" area of Cornville should have a prerequisite of defining a design vision for this heart of our town. For example: a tree lined 30 mph area with sidewalks and shops...or on street parking and an historic feeling 'Main Stree"...or what? The vision the residents agree on will greatly affect any road design.
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THE PROBLEM IS THE 7 STUPID ROUNDABOUTS THAT WERE INSTALLED ON 260 BETWEEN COTTONWOOD AND I17...THE TRUCKERS WILL NOT USE 260 BECAUSE THEY CAN NOT SAFELY MANEUVER A TRUCK WITH A 53' TRAILER AROUND THESE OBSTACLES. THEREFORE THEY ALL USE CORNVILLE ROAD, AS WELL AS MUCH OF THE OTHER TRAFFIC FOR THE SAME REASON
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We need a right hand turn lane here. I live here...right on the corner of Cornville & Mountain View...my driveway is immediately on the left when you turn on to the road. Currently people constantly are tailgating and beeping because they have to slow down and don't like it that I take the turn slowly because I have to watch for traffic coming down Mountain View before turning in to my driveway.
Many other people in this community get beeped at and passed ...its not just me.
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The survey/study should include up to here (basically the "Green Gate" Trailhead entrance). It becomes residential here.
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I think you need a round-about here too at the intersection of Page Springs and Cornville Road
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I realize this is just outside the target area, but at Cornville Road and Desert Holly/Koch Ranch is very dangerous. Travelers coming West along Cornville Road pay zero attention to the speed limit reduction to 40mph, and the Desert Star School is just across the street off Recycler Road. Parents dropping off and picking up their kids have to fight with people speeding by, making this a dangerous location.
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The road needs to be widened to a 4 lane to and from Cornville. Either that or more passing zones. The speed limit could go up to 55, that might help with the passing in non zone areas.
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With the exchange of this 80-acre parcel of National Forest Land to Yavapai County, there is a huge opportunity to redesign the
Aspaas/Cornville Road intersection to slow traffic through the heart of the community ... perhaps a traffic circle? Please consider "traffic slowing" techniques, such as community entry signs, median strips, turn lanes, etc., along with rumble strips and speed alert signs already in use or planned. -
The speeds and amount of traffic on Cornville Rd is getting worst every year. Sometimes it takes over 5 minutes to enter on to Cornville Rd. westbound.
A Roundabout would be very helpful and make it much safer at this intersection. There have been many accidents at this intersection.